I have to say that my reason for joining this community was because I was really excited about being part of a community--I read a lot of feminist (and anti-racist and trans) blogs, but I don't feel really comfortable commenting there. (Also, I hate blog software commenting, I really do.)
But yeah, when I got here and noticed that there were a) a lot of people here and b) not a lot of PoC/trans/non-US people commenting, I just got worried that the critical mass had already been reached where people who didn't fit the mold were going to feel excluded by default and not even bother adding their voices. And I don't want to be a part of a silencing majority.
So I think that whatever happens, I want to be clear either in the community rules or by the posts we make and how discussions are framed and moderated that we're going to listen to those voices--that civility only goes so far.
I mean, I am too for civility! And listening to each other! But I have seen a lot of conversations go,
Privileged Person A: Well, I just think that Group B doesn't understand how we're right and they're wrong and they obviously haven't thought about the situation and thus don't deserve the special "rights" they're whining about wanting. Member of Group B: That makes me fucking angry! Mod: A, B, we're trying to keep things civil here. I'm locking down the discussion.
And it's like, well, yes, cursing is uncivil, but also maybe we can point out that Person B is right in this situation while we're doing the post lockdown, and not just call time-out? Let B know we've got hir back and want to give hir an out from arguing with a brick wall and let hir know that we're not standing for that kind of talk, we're just planning on coming at it from another angle with more emotional distance?
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Date: 2010-10-13 07:58 am (UTC)But yeah, when I got here and noticed that there were a) a lot of people here and b) not a lot of PoC/trans/non-US people commenting, I just got worried that the critical mass had already been reached where people who didn't fit the mold were going to feel excluded by default and not even bother adding their voices. And I don't want to be a part of a silencing majority.
So I think that whatever happens, I want to be clear either in the community rules or by the posts we make and how discussions are framed and moderated that we're going to listen to those voices--that civility only goes so far.
I mean, I am too for civility! And listening to each other! But I have seen a lot of conversations go,
Privileged Person A: Well, I just think that Group B doesn't understand how we're right and they're wrong and they obviously haven't thought about the situation and thus don't deserve the special "rights" they're whining about wanting.
Member of Group B: That makes me fucking angry!
Mod: A, B, we're trying to keep things civil here. I'm locking down the discussion.
And it's like, well, yes, cursing is uncivil, but also maybe we can point out that Person B is right in this situation while we're doing the post lockdown, and not just call time-out? Let B know we've got hir back and want to give hir an out from arguing with a brick wall and let hir know that we're not standing for that kind of talk, we're just planning on coming at it from another angle with more emotional distance?